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Mark Mohr's Response The The
Essay With Footnotes |
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In a lenghty articly, Christafari
Founder Mark Mohr responded to the book
Christafarianism. Here you can find the complete text
with added footnotes. This is not the follow-up for this
essay, but an analysis of this Response.
As you will see, the Book
Christafarianism has caused Mark Mohr to change his
definiton of Rastafari. For him, a Rasta is now either a
"Selassie Worshipper" or a Deceiver. You will
see Mark Mohr giving an "political correct apologie"
to the Deceivers for "lumping them into the
Selassie Worshippers category.
You will see him boldly announcing how
he perpetuates his personal use of Rastafarian and
Christian elements in order to further his aim of
"plugging the gap in the industry".
You will see him prefering a babylonian term
over a Biblical NAME when speaking about the Most High.
You will see how he claims that he
"makes christians", which he presents as
"fruits of my efforts". Mohr says his efforts
have to be seen as seperate from JAH works, and even
even claims that JAH reaps "the fruits of my
efforts" where the Bible says it is all JAH works.
The response also contains a set of
blatant lies which in itself explain the reason why he
doesn't provide one single quote or referance to back up
his many false claims.
Mark Mohr exposes how he has two
different gospels to preach. And how if you critisize
one gospel he's hiding behind the other in a very clever
way.
The response reveals the mind-set of
Mark Mohr, which is explained and analysed with links to
academic studies that back this up. A mind-set that has
no problem in using Rastafarian symbology and Christian
principals, only to transform it's meaning into a
marketing technology. Not even when these symbologies
and expressions are admittedly not
"unbiblical". Mark Mohr still has to change
the meaning of Rastafarian symbology in order to serve
his aims.
You will also see how Mark Mohr accuses
Messian Dread of illegal use of copywritten material,
where Christafari has stolen at least one Dubroom Review
and illegally put it on the Christafari Website without
asking permission.
You will see how Christafari has changed
that review into a piece which says to forget about
"the ever enigmatic Yabby You and Messian Dread,
because here is a True Christian Roots
Artist."
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Mark Mohr's Response The The
Essay With Footnotes 1 |
| Mark
Mohr's Response to "The Essay" |
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| Messian
Dread's footnotes to "Mark Mohr's
Response" |
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| As
I am writing this post, I am both wounded
and frustrated by a senseless feud between
the veteran accuser and myself. Since 1986
this individual has been contentious against
Christafari and our core listeners in reggae
forums and even more recently in the forum
at lionofzion.com. |
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| As
the reply contains a lot of
misrepresentation of facts, the innocent
typo in the introduction is only a funny
illustration to which I simply draw some
innocent attention.
Because in the year 1986 Mark Mohr was
still in his own words, a "Rasta".
He means to say the year 1996.
What Mark Mohr wants to say, is
that he and I are having contact since that
time. initially, he asked for my help
because of the trouble he was in, and I
tried to help him out.
The "feud" came later,
after I began to criticize Mark Mohr for
spreading false information about Rastafari
and not rectifying it in public. |
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MORE
ON THE SUBJECT |
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| My
face-to-face meeting in the UK, recent forum
discussions and last Q and A interview with
him seemed amicable, so you can imagine how
surprised I was to find that for the last
few years, he has simply been gathering
ammunition for his longest ranting of all.
Even worse, he has been "baiting"
our listeners and my pastor in his
undercover reasoning sessions. Now that his
true intentions have come to light I am
appalled! |
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| Let
me complete the list of "contacts"
a little.
I have repeatedly try to address my
concerns in private in the period
1997-2001.
Then I wrote my article, and he asked me
-again- not to go public but wait until he
would publicly acknowledge what he now
finally does in this response.
I have waited from 2001 to 2004 for this
and then I went public. A few days later:
there was the public acknowledgement.
I tried to keep my cool and stay humble,
waiting for this...
In the beginning, back in 1997, he
replied with mails such as that I, "as
fan", should be happy to receive an
email from a "star" (really).
Later he called me a "prominent in
Christian Reggae" in another attempt to
keep me from going public with my concerns.
I have tried to address my concerns in a
face to face meeting with him, but further
then an -indeed- amicable vibe and some
private exchange of things I couldn't get.
In short, I have found a closed door
whenever I tried to address my concerns with
Christafari in private from 1997 until 2004.
Then I decided I really had to go public
with my concerns or wait until I'm dead.
Mark Mohr has been aware of my concerns
since 1997. He acknowledges some of them in
private from 2001 and on. They are no
surprise to him.
I did not have an undercover reasoning. I
simply asked Bob Beeman about the connection
between sanctuary and lion of Zion. I even
gave Bob Beeman the quote in my article and
asked him to confirm what I wrote.
So yes, I have done research and asked
people questions. I wanted my essay to be as
documented as possible.
If I would not do research, the response
would be that I had no proof of my thesis.
But now I have, and not a single time
does he respond to even one of them in his
whole Response. |
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MORE
ON THE SUBJECT |
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| I
object to his constant misuse of quotes and
wish that if someone were going to
wrongfully quote copy-written material, they
would at least get the context right. Given
this, I ask that he not quote any of this
post in any of his writings on his website
unless he publishes it in its entirety so as
to avoid any further misconceptions. Now I
would like to address some of the issues
that he has brought up. |
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| I
always provide links and where necessary the
original material so people can check out
for themselves if I actually quote something
in or out of context.
The laws concerning copyright clearly
give permission for using material to
review, research or criticize. Even
unpublished material can be used legally.
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MORE
ON THE SUBJECT |
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Misuse of copy-written material would be,
for example, to place a Dubroom review on
the Lion of Zion website without permission
to sell a CD.
Which is a thing Lion of Zion has
actually done. |
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| CHRISTAFARIANS
AND CHRISTAFARIANISM:
First off, I am sorry that he has grossly
misunderstood our use of the word
"Christafarian". It is not a
belief system or sect of faith. The word has
only personally been used a few times to my
knowledge. First, it was the original name
of my band Christafari. Second, it has been
used in past Lion of Zion updates in
reference to our listeners. It was never
used to describe a certain belief system.
When I think of the term
"Christafarian," I think about a
supporter or admirer of our music. Not a
convert that has been conformed to my ways. |
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| Mark
Mohr is not "a musician with a band and
fans" only.
His biography is called "Meet Pastor
Mark" for years. I'm sure he's gonna
change that now, but it doesn't take away
the fact.
Further in his article he also says how
he wants to make converts out of his
listeners. He "ministers" to them
and provides lists with numbers of
"saved souls".
He writes doctrinal statements and
articles while he constantly refers to his
works as a "ministry" and
teachings.
In private correspondence he even
referred to his wife as a "his most
important ministry".
He considers himself to be a spiritual
example for others, as he repeatedly states
in various articles.
When he was having a divorce and people
criticized him for having that, they pointed
out to the very same fact. They stressed
that Mark Mohr is considered a teacher by
many people. Mark Mohr acknowledged that and
listed his phone number. Everyone could ask
him everything about his divorce because of
"accountability".
It is clear, that Mark Mohr does not
consider his listeners just that, listeners
to his music. And his listeners, whom he
called Christafarians, look up to him as a
teacher. |
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| The
most recent use of this name was found in a
question asked in a recent interview that
was posted on www.christafari.com. I was
asked, "Why do you feel so many people
get hooked into CHRISTAFARIANISM?" |
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| I
notice how Mohr seamlessly goes over from
describing Christafarians into describing
Christafarianism. So I can assume
Christafarians are adherents of
Christafarianism. |
| Christafari
is a word play on Rastafari. Mark Mohr
denies this and says it means community of
Christ.
Okay...
Members of this "community of
Christ" are Christafarians. But I
shouldn't compare them with members of the
community of Christ, of which he is a
pastor.
For then he says, a Christafarian is not
a member of the community of Christ. Kind of
confusing, but I'm not the one who authors
this confusion.
It's another hole in the facade... |
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| My
answer was simple:
"Our music is original and unlike
anything out there in the Christian
industry. This unique roots sound cannot be
replaced by the latest industry manufactured
pop sensation that is on the cover of CCM.
We have created our own culture within our
fan base. And these fans are diehard. We may
not have a huge crowd every night when we
are out on tour, but the ones that come
truly understand what we are trying to
accomplish and often drive as far as 5
states away just to fellowship with us and
praise God through reggae music." |
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| As
you can see, Mark Mohr says I
misinterpretate "Christafarian"
and says the latest use was in the quote you
see left. I don't see the word
Christafarian, I do see the word
Christafarianism in the question (previous
paragraph).
I also see an admittance that
Christafari's work is published in what he
calls the "Christian
Industry".
I see Mark Mohr defining Christafarianism
literally as "our own culture which we
created within our fan base".
Then I see how he proposes this culture
as an alternative to what he calls "the
latest industry manufactured pop sensation
that is on the cover of CCM".
He describes this culture as
"fellowshipping and praising God"
which seems like something completely
different then just a band with some fans.
Especially not when you know that
Christafari claims, that Mark Mohr is
"chosen by God to be a leader like
Moses and David to plug the gap in the
Industry". Literally. |
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do you feel God chose
you to plug this gap in Christian music?
(...) this is how
God works, (...) once
again, this is how God works. (...) he
chose me (...) this
is how he chooses leaders; from Moses (...)
to King David (...) |
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| So
where he presents his "ministry"
as only a band with fans when I criticize
this ministry, he presents it as a
"ministry" when he talks to the
Christafarians. Proof of that and it is
right there on the Christafari website. |
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LINK
TO THE PAGE |
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SEARCH
GOOGLE FOR MORE |
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| As
you can see, the above question was not
referring to a cult that I have
started--heaven forbid. I am simply
referring to those who love our music. As I
am being accused of starting some dangerous
brew of Babylon Christianity, I now realize
that I should have corrected this Brazilian
interviewer, stating that I represent
"Christafari," a band, not
"Christafarianism," a religious
movement. For though I am an ordained
pastor, (a title that I very rarely use to
describe myself, and one that I never use to
lord myself over others), for years I have
tried to make it crystal clear where we
stand; I am a born again, baptized, gospel
preaching Christian. |
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| He
might say that he should have said the
journalist that his band was only a band,
but in fact he is just repeating the same
argument which I commented on in the
previous paragraphs.
And yes, he might say now that he did not
start a "cult", but I have never
suggested this in the first place.
I do however remind Mark Mohr to the fact
that he says Christafarians are members of
"the culture we created with our fan
base".
I point out to the fact that he also uses
the word "cult" and
"culture" interchangeably in his
many descriptions of what he calls
"Rastafarianism".
And actually, I am only mentioning it,
not even draw a conclusion from it.
Another word he uses interchangeably is
"gospel". But there are two
completely opposing definitions of the word
"gospel".
The Message of Salvation to sinners is
one.
A music genre in the Christian Industrial
Complex or CCM is another.
He "preaches the gospel", but
he also has a "gospel reggae"
band.
When I criticize the preaching of the
"first gospel" aspect, his reply
can be summarized as "just a band with
just a fan base", a reference to the
second definition.
With that he admits, between the lines,
how his band and music should only be seen
as such: a band with music. That is the
other gospel.
I'm not making it that difficult, but I
do think the necessity for a research center
with a group of researchers and analysts is
quite obvious. |
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| It
is not my desire, nor has it ever to make
little Christafarians, out of our fan-base.
I simply want to see more people become
Christians. In fact, I have always been
against starting another Christian
denomination of believers (even at the
Gathering, a church that I helped plant). As
believers, we are all a part of the
universal body of Christ. We need more unity
not division, a lesson that my accuser
should consider prayerfully. |
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| Now
he changes to the first definition of
"gospel".
We have already seen how he says that he
created a culture in the industry containing
"Christafarians", he quoted it
himself in his answer to describe who HE
means are the Christafarians. They are
members of "Christafarianism" in
his own admittance.
Christafari's live agenda is a list of
concerts at evangelizing projects from local
churches from many different
denominations.
But Mark Mohr, as a pastor, "plants
churches" as well. There he teaches
lessons about the Christian Industry |
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LINK
TO THE PAGE |
| and
other subjects. His "ministry" is
a weird mix-up of "the two
gospels" which is in the same time his
defense mechanism. Be criticized for one
"gospel", hide behind the other. |
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also notice that here he starts calling me
"divisive". Later on I will
elaborate on that aspect. |
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| They
will know that we are Christians by our
love, not our debates or senseless arguments
over superficial issues in the public's eye.
You want to know my intentions? I will make
them very clear. It is my wish to see our
listeners (and all who have ears to hear)
come in agreement with the Holy Scriptures
as outlined in the Nicene Creed and as I
have described in our teaching statement. |
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| This
is a description of preaching the first
gospel.
However, this very same person also
states: "God Chose Me To Plug The Gap
In The Industry With The Culture We Created
With Our Fan Base Called
Christafarianism".
I also quickly note that Mark Mohr calls
the Bible and the Nicene Creed as well as
his own "teaching
statement".
His own teachings I will fully criticize
later on. |
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| To
satisfy your curiosity, I have posted our
doctrinal statement below so that you can
see what we stand for. This writing is also
found in the recently updated FAQ section of
lionofzion.com: |
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| OUR
DOCTRINE:
WE TEACH that there is one God, eternally
existing in three persons: Father, Son, and
Holy Spirit. (Genesis 1:1,26; Matthew 28:19;
John 1:1-3, 4:24; Acts 5:3-4; Romans 1:20; 2
Corinthians 13:14; Ephesians 4:5-6) |
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TEACH that Jesus Christ was conceived by the
Holy Spirit, and born of the Virgin Mary,
and is fully God and fully man. (Matthew
1:18-25; Luke 1:26-38; Romans 9:5; Titus
2:13) |
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TEACH that the Bible is the complete,
inspired Word of God, without error in its
original manuscripts. The Bible is our
supreme and final authority in faith and
life. (Isaiah 40:8; Matthew 5:18, 24:35; 2
Timothy 3:16; Hebrews 4:12; 2 Peter 1:20-21) |
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TEACH that man was created in the image of
God, that he sinned and thereby incurred not
only physical death but also spiritual death
which is separation from God, and that all
human beings are born with a sinful nature,
and become guilty sinners in thought, word
and deed. (Genesis 1:26-27; 3:1-24; Romans
3:25, 5:12-18; 1 John 1: |
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believe that too... Although I don't believe
that man has an eternal soul. I believe Jah
gives souls eternal life as a gift. |
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TEACH that the Lord Jesus died for our sins
according to the Scriptures as a
representative and substitutionary
sacrifice; that He bodily rose victorious
from the grave on the third day; and that
all who believe in Him are justified on the
basis of His shed blood. (Matthew 20:28,
28:6; John 3:16; Romans 3:24-26, 5:1, 10:9;
1 Corinthians 15:3, 14;2 Corinthians 5:21;
Ephesians 1:7; 1 John 2:2) |
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TEACH the personal and imminent return of
our Lord Jesus Christ. (Acts 1:11; 1
Thessalonians 4:16-17) |
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TEACH that all who come by grace through
faith to accept the Lord Jesus Christ are
born again of the Holy Spirit and thereby
become children of God forever. (John
1:12-13, 3:3-5; Ephesians 2:8-9; James 1:18;
1 Peter 1:23) WE TEACH that while without
faith it is impossible to please God, the
possession of faith does not ensure health
or prosperity. (Luke 9:22-27; 2 Corinthians
11:23-31, 12:7-10; Philippians 1:29-30; 2
Timothy 3:8-12; Hebrew 11:6, 32-40) |
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TEACH the bodily resurrection of the just
and unjust, the everlasting joy of the saved
and the everlasting conscious punishment of
the lost. (Matthew 25:31-46; John 5:28-29; 1
Corinthians 15:12-57; 2 Corinthians 5:10;
Revelation 20:4-6, 11-15) |
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TEACH that all Christians are baptized by
the Holy Spirit and permanently indwelt by
Him at the point of salvation. The filling
of the Holy Spirit is meant to be a
continuous experience for the believer
through submission to His controlling
authority and power. (John 14:16, 15:5;
Romans 6:3-5, 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 12:13;
Ephesians 5:15-21) |
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TEACH that the body of Christ, the church,
is composed of interdependent members who
are born again, each having received from
the Holy Spirit gifts which are to be
exercised for the building up of the whole
body. No one gift is given to all believers
nor indicates regeneration, filling, or
baptism with the Holy Spirit. (Romans
12:4-8; 1 Corinthians 12:12-13; Ephesians
2:14-20, 4:4-16) |
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TEACH baptism (by submersion in water) in
the name of the Father, the Son (Jesus) and
the Holy Spirit. Baptism is not necessary
for salvation. It is an outward
demonstration of the individual's inward
conviction and a matter of obedience to our
Lord. We teach that Christ commanded His
church to baptize believers as a
proclamation of their faith and
identification with Him and His church, and
to celebrate communion as a living memorial
of His redemptive death and as a reminder of
present fellowship with Christ and His body.
(Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 2:28-47, 8:36-40,
10:47, 18:8; Romans 6:3-5; 1 Corinthians
11:23-29) |
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| Again,
It is not my desire to make
"Christafarians," only Christians.
I challenge anyone that wishes to follow me
in this endeavor to follow Christ instead.
Let us work together side-by-side. I am
merely a humble saint that is challenged
daily by sin. I do not ever wish to lead
anyone astray. This is why I remain
accountable to local pastors such as Gwynn
Lewis and Ken Vroom. This is why I slave to
fill our lyrics and posts with Scripture and
give our listeners a decided direction in
their lives--towards God, not towards me. I
simply want to see people become lovers of
the Word of God. |
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| Now,
again. Almost seamlessly has he changed the
subject from being a band-leader with fans
to being a pastor.
Is it still so, that I can not criticize
some of Mohr's teachings without running
into the "band leader", but the
"band leader" turns out to be a
"pastor" who wants to make
"Christians" according to, among
other things, "his teachings".
So he keeps running in this circle of two
gospels. |
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| Many
of you reading this may wonder "who, or
what I am referring to?" Forgive me for
not going into details, but I refuse to draw
attention to such biblically unfounded
misstatements. This would add fuel to his
flame. |
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| I
find this a very cheap reason for the
refusal to quote me or debate me in public.
Mind you, he also didn't want to talk
about my concerns in private.
After all, everything is just a
"senseless argument" and
"debate".
In reality, Mark Mohr is aware that his
argumentation and thesis can never stand the
test of scrutiny. |
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| Others
understand what I am responding to and have
read the texts that have recently been
deleted from our forum. I am sure that it is
clear to you that when you read a writing
like this, you have to consider the subject
AND the source. My music, my doctrine, my
lyrics, the fruits of this ministry and my
life in Christ over the past 15 years reveal
the truth. Consistency speaks volumes and
the fruit does reveal the root. |
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| I
agree wholeheartedly with the statements,
that the fruits reveal the roots.
Fruits which are not necessarily good, as
Mark Mohr admits and apologizes for in this
very publication.
I also agree that it is impossible to
separate the "Pastor" from the
"Band leader".
But if that is so, you can't say that I
should make this separation in my critique! |
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| CAN
A RASTA BE A CHRISTIAN?
In short--"yes". I do
acknowledge that there are certain self
proclaimed Rastas that deny the divinity of
Haile Selassie and believe that Jesus is
Lord. I praise God for these brothers in the
Lord that have seen the truth. So yes, some
rastas may be Christians and some Christians
do consider themselves rastas. On this point
we can agree and I apologize for lumping all
Rastafarians into the category of
"Selassie Worshipers" in the past.
Yet this concession comes nowhere close to
justifying this person's slander. |
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This is not a recently discovered
in-sight and the fact that he knows he
should apologize in public for it, is also
not new to him.
In fact, it's almost since ancient
times...
The mere publication of my concerns have
brought him to fulfill the promise he made
seven years ago.
He calls it a "concession".
How can acknowledging a fact be labeled
as a concession?
A concession to what, and from what?
Not a concession, but a confession would
be it it's place, right there on the left
hand side.
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| While
the most common description of a Rasta is
"someone who worships Haile Selassie
(Ras Tafari) as Lord," there are
various houses of Rastafari, and many even
conflict with each other in doctrine. For 14
years I went on mission trips to Jamaica and
never met one "Rasta" that
denounced the divinity of Haile Selassie.
Given my personal experiences, for a very
long time I used the general term
"Rasta" to describe such a person.
But I realize now that there is also a
growing fringe of Rasta believers that deny
the divinity of Haile Selassie and worship
Jesus Christ alone. So to assume that all
Rastas are not saved could be wrong and such
a judgment is unfair. Please forgive me. |
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| Mark
Mohr told me personally that it was the
transcript of an interview with the Prophet
Gad of the 12 Tribes Of Israel Organization
which I transcribed and published with
authorization of Gadman, that introduced him
to the fact that there are different houses
of Rastafari and that there are many Rastas
who subscribe to the statements of the
prophet Gad.
This means, that he knows all of this for
many years but never acknowledged it in
public.
Are you being truthful when you first
admit facts in a response to a publication
where your denial of these facts is exposed?
There's another little aspect in this
paragraph. It seems to have totally passed
his attention, that there was, in his words,
"a growing fringe of Rasta believers
that deny the divinity of Haile Selassie and
worship Jesus Christ alone".
But wait a minute. Didn't he say to the
Christian Media that HE was the one who was
called by God to "achieve" that? I
just mention it... |
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| To
further clarify my stance regarding this, I
have modified the following FAQs and
replaced the word "Rastafarian"
with the now politically correct term
"Selassie worshippers". The
following FAQs now reflect these changes
among others: "What is the difference
between Rastafari and Christafari"?,
The reggae stigma, Red, yellow and green,
How to witness to a Rasta, How did you get
your calling?, What do we believe?, Bob
Marley, and Should Christians call
themselves "Rastas?". |
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| And
what does this apology mean, when it's
described with words like
"concession", and on your left
even as "political correct"?
I'll briefly quote from a study that
defines "political correctness".
Even more important: the mind- sets that
make people use political correct language.
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| At
its core, political correctness (...)
rejects the Judeo-Christian tradition and
its notion of revealed truth (...) |
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LINK
TO THE PAGE |
| One
can laugh over quoting an academic analysis.
But think about it: why using the word
"political correct" unless you're
applying it?
Besides, the whole response of Mark's
article radiates what the academic
describes.
Mark Mohr calls his "apology" a
"political correct" one. This
means, he uses the idea of political
correctness in his way of thinking.
When he's not simply concealing an
unwillingness to acknowledge a fact, that
is.
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| However,
I still do not agree with a Christian
calling himself a "Rastafarian." I
personally view this as misleading and a
compromise of verses such as Psalm 16:4.
Though I love these brothers, I am in sharp
disagreement with such an approach. |
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| When
you go back to the analysis of
"political correctness", and you
may have thought that it was too much, think
again.
Here we see a practical application of
the post-modern way of thinking of which
political correctness is a part of.
Mark Mohr acknowledges, that Rastas can
be Christian. That means he doesn't have to
evangelize them. He doesn't have to teach to
stop being a Rasta in order to be saved.
Still he calls them deceivers and he
doesn't see the illogical reasoning behind
it. It's perfectly normal to call your
brother a deceiver and when one points you
out to that, you call that one
"divisive".
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NEW START:
I love Rastafarians and I pray for them
often. I do not view them as racist or
hateful people, nor would I ever say such a
thing to the press. In the same way that
Selassie worshippers may want me to accept
the divinity of His Imperial Majesty, I long
for them to truly follow his teachings and
worship the TRUE CHRIST. In this vast
difference in views many toes have been
stepped on. For this I apologize. |
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| Another
proof that his "political correct
apology" has no real substance, is the
paragraph on the left.
As you can see, he still uses the words
"Rasta" and "Selassie
Worshippers" interchangeably.
And he perpetuates his own position as
being consciously anti-Rasta. Rasta is
"them", even when "they"
are Christians according to his own
definition given in this article.
Even though he admits the difference is
vast and the hurt is worth an apology, he
chooses to perpetuate ignoring the
difference and calls it "political
correct".
When your thinking doesn't lead you to
realizing this clear contradiction, your
action are post-modernism in practice. Just
look to the academic definition:
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is being rejected is the hope that truth
exists. Not just that we might have
difficulty discerning truth, but that it is
not there to be discerned. |
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| Mark
Mohr says: Yeah, sure, you can be a Rasta in
your born-again situation. I just happen to
think that you're a deceiver, even in your
born again situation. |
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| I
am also sorry for the overbearing zeal of
certain Christafari supporters in our forum.
Though I just recently entered the Rasta
Reasoning forum for the first time in a very
long while, I should have tried harder to
keep any individual from being disrespected
or maligned. This problem has prayerfully
been fixed and we look forward to seeing
this forum become a healthy environment of
respectful reasoning. |
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| When
you apologize for behavior of your
"supporters", then you feel
responsible for their behavior.
When you then apologize for not
"keeping" people from "doing
something", you're really not only a
band leader with fans.
I also like to add, that this
"problem" is absolutely not only
present on the Christafari forum. I wish it
were so.
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| In
addressing the problem head-on, I have
decided to start-a-new. I have cleaned out
all old posts in the Rasta Reasoning thread.
While some may be vexed at such a move,
others will applaud my actions. Some times
you must do some serious house cleaning to
get rid of germs. For those who have been
offended by Christafari listeners, these
offenses have been removed (and vice versa).
Let's start from scratch and behave like
honorable adults from now on. |
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| Of
course the deletion of the messages were to
prevent people from checking out what was
the case on the message board.
Or as he puts it, "For those who
have been offended by Christafari listeners,
these offenses have been removed (and
vice versa)."
In a phone conversation with Mark Mohr he
told me many times: "I want to fix this
problem now". I have answered him an
equal number of times that the problem was
already out there, leading it's life, making
it's problems.
Some problems can't be "fixed"
easily. This is one of them.
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Mark Mohr's Response The The
Essay With Footnotes 2 |
| Mark
Mohr's Response to "The Essay" |
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| Messian
Dread's footnotes to "Mark Mohr's
Response" |
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